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Catherine Cullen 140 posts since
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Jul 17, 2009 3:34 PM

Sign Up for Discussion Area Teams

Below are the discussion areas we will use to frame our work. Please use the reply function to indicate which areas interest you by Tuesday, July 21st.

If you are interested in becoming a Team Leader, please check out the Team Leader Expectations document for more information.

 

Discussion Area #1: Measures

 

1. Are current measures adequate? Why or why not?

2. What student-level measures (test scores, other student work) would be useful? Why?

3. What classroom-level measures (observations, etc.) would be useful? Why?

4. What school-level data would be useful? Why?

5. Is the quality and availability of supports such as data/tracking infrastructure and training sufficient? Why or why not?

6. Are there any innovative practices in this area?

 

 

Discussion Area #2: Implementation

 

1. Are the appropriate people conducting the evaluation? Why or why not? Are they properly trained?

2. Are the ratings systems for teacher evaluations useful? Why or why not?

3. Is there enough oversight regarding the process? Why or why not? What is the role of the principal?

4. Do teachers have an adequate role in evaluation? Why or why not? Are their peers involved? Should they be?

5. Do evaluations occur enough? Why or why not?

6. Are there differences in degree of implementation/faithfulness to goal? Why?

7. What are the barriers to implementation?

8. Are there any innovative practices in this area?

 

 

Discussion Area #3: Outcomes

 

1. Is the impact on reward system appropriate? Why or why not?

2. Do evaluations affect professional growth? Why or why not?

3. Do evaluations affect future performance? Why or why not?

4. Is the system fair? Why or why not? Does the system reward effective teachers, offer less effective teachers necessary help they need to succeed, and ensure that chronically ineffective teachers are phased out of the system? Why or why not?

5. Are there any innovative practices in this area?

 

 

 

Discussion Area #4: Policy

 

1. Are districts playing appropriate role in terms of policy? Why or why not?

2. Are states playing appropriate role in terms of policy? What are the goals of teacher evaluation systems at the state level?

3. Is the Federal Government playing the appropriate role in terms of policy? What goals and levers exist at the Federal level?

4. Are unions appropriately involved? Why or why not?

5. Are non-union teachers and administrators playing the appropriate role in terms of policy? Why or why not?

6. Are funding levels sufficient for implementation? Do they reflect the value of teacher evaluation systems? Why or why not?

7. Are teacher evaluation systems institutionalized? Why or why not?

8. Are there any innovative practices in this area?

 


Overarching questions – issues to think about and address in each discussion area

 

1. Are there differences across grade levels?

2. Are there differences across subjects?

3. Are there differences between charter schools and typical schools? Is there anything we can learn from private schools?

4. Are there teacher concerns that have not been addressed?


  • Lisa A. Mills 115 posts since
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    Jul 17, 2009 3:30 PM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
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    I am interested in #1 and #2.

     

    Thanks.

     

    -Lisa Mills

  • Dina Rock 132 posts since
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    Jul 18, 2009 10:02 AM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
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    Hi Catherine,

    I am interested in #1 and #2.... I think it is difficult to discuss the outcome possibilities until we know what we are putting in place.. Then maybe we can think about what the outcome goals and expectations are.  Once again, thank you for everything you are doing.  I feel energized by this group and so "hopeful" that we are really not just going to "talk about change" but actually be part of the change.  So often, I have been involved in staff development, meetings, discussions, that never get past the "why we need change" part and now I feel we will be getting to the core of the problems and define ways to change education for the future.  Thank you.

    Dina Rock

  • 9 posts since
    Jul 13, 2009
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    Jul 18, 2009 7:36 PM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
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    Interested in Measurement and Outcomes as well as Overarching Issues - to which should be added cultural/linguistic/regional diversity.
  • 11 posts since
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    Jul 20, 2009 12:46 AM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
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    Hello -

     

    I would be okay with any of the areas but I am the most interested in #2 or #4.

     

    Thanks!

     

    Laura

  • 7 posts since
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    Jul 20, 2009 7:48 PM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
    Re: Sign Up for Discussion Area Teams
    I am most interested in areas #2 and #3.
  • Douglas Clark 103 posts since
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    Jul 20, 2009 10:31 PM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
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    Greetings All,

     

    Just got back from holiday and found all this great conversation. My preference for discussion teams would be #3 and #4.

     

    Thanks so much,

     

    Doug Clark

  • 3 posts since
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    Jul 21, 2009 12:54 PM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
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    Hi,

     

    Please, sign me up for the Policy discussion area team.

     

    Thank you!

    Sheila Akinleye

  • 11 posts since
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    Jul 22, 2009 9:57 AM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
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    Please sign me up for #1 and #2. Thanks!
  • 1 posts since
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    Jul 22, 2009 11:56 AM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
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    Dear Catherine:

     

    Please add me to the Policy Group (#4). Thank you, Kesi Stribling

  • 4 posts since
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    Jul 22, 2009 5:56 PM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
    Re: Sign Up for Discussion Area Teams
    I will be happy to be a part of any of the areas, but which one discusses the goals or purpose of teacher evaluation? How can we measure something unless we specify what we are measuring? I think that is part of the root problem - do we really know and can express exactly what we expect teachers to know and to do? Is it content? Is it citizenship? Is it broad education in the classic sense or is it the narrow standards and objectives that each state and district outline?
  • 6 posts since
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    Jul 22, 2009 7:54 PM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
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    Please add me to items #1 and #4.

     

    In the discussion about teacher evaluation systems I don't recognize a consensus on what exactly is being evaluated.

     

    Are teachers to be evaluated based on student performance/achievement? What relationship do those measures have with economic growth and opportunity? Is the role of the teacher to train or to nurture? Are classrooms preparing yesterday's workforce or tomorrow's? What responsibility do schools have in the creation and/or maintenance of social demographics?

     

    The answers to these questions not only frame the context of education but the teachers employed within it, as well as the implementation of relevant evaluation systems.

  • 4 posts since
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    Jul 22, 2009 9:41 PM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
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    I think I am equally interested in all of these topics.  Feel free to shuffle me wherever more input is needed!

    Thank you.

  • 5 posts since
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    Jul 23, 2009 10:03 AM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
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    Please sign me up for #1.

     

    JoAnn McKenna

  • 4 posts since
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    Jul 26, 2009 1:46 PM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
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    I am ok with any of these though 1,2, or 4 hold out more interest.  Sorry about the missed deadline.

     

    David

    • 26 posts since
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      Jul 28, 2009 5:10 PM (in response to David Markus)
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      A big thank you to everyone who has signed up for discussion teams. We will be posting what we have so far tomorrow and getting Team Leaders set up so you guys can get started on the work. Thanks for your patience as we work through this pilot project. Keep the good thoughts coming!
  • 13 posts since
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    Jul 28, 2009 6:54 PM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
    Re: Sign Up for Discussion Area Teams
    I am especially interested in #1.   Thanks
    • 26 posts since
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      Jul 28, 2009 8:26 PM (in response to Connie Rath)
      Re: Sign Up for Discussion Area Teams

      Super Connie! Thanks for responding. We'll post the Teams tomorrow. Were you interested in being  a Team Leader? Also, have you been able to post something about your experiences with teacher evaluation? As a Dean, I'm sure you have some anecdotes about evaluating your teachers - or perhaps, you yourself being evaluated? We're just looking for stories that can be shared that add real life context to our discussions. Lastly, don't forget to fill out your profile so we can all learn more about you. Many thanks again!

  • 16 posts since
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    Jul 28, 2009 11:13 PM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
    Re: Sign Up for Discussion Area Teams
    I'm interested in areas #2 and #3
  • 26 posts since
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    Jul 29, 2009 9:47 PM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
    Discussion Area teams posted!

    Thanks to everyone who has been able to sign up for Discussion Areas! We are hoping the rest of you will be able to do so by the end of the week. Our team at Hope Street Group has busily been calling/e-mailing all the volunteers to check in and answer any questions you may have. The biggest confusion seems to be around the process and what happens next. So, I'm going to clarify that.

     

    The project is broken down into four discussion areas that are derived from the research about teacher evaluation. Policy volunteers will be divided into four teams that correspond to the discussion areas. There will be one Team Leader and possible co-leaders for each discussion area. Each Team Leader will guide the team over the next 7 weeks to come up with recommendations for essential elements of teacher evaluation systems as they relate to your discussion area. Those recommendations will be compiled into a report that will be released on October 26 in Washington, DC at the National Press Club moderated by Andy Rotherham. There will be a terrific line up of panelists there to support and give context to the report. We are also hoping that Team Leaders and volunteers will be able to be there (if your schedule permits). Immediately after the report is released, we will be arranging meetings with our staff, Team Leaders and the offices of members of Congress to talk about the implementation of the recommendations. The ultimate goal is to have 10 states sign on to the elements. So, as you can see we have great big hopes for your work and believe very strongly in the effort.

     

    This is all by way of saying that we need you to sign up for discussion teams so you all can get going on your work. There are great discussions to be had and a tremendous wealth of knowledge to be shared so, let us know if we can answer any questions that will help you make your decision. And don't forget, if you are interested in being a Team Leader send me a brief statement about your interest and your resume. Though being Team Leader carries more responsibility, you are also given the opportunity to be more visible and directly involved in the policy process.

     

    We are still waiting on some team leader decisions but in the meantime, we have assigned you to a team. So, drum roll please....here are the teams:

     

    Measures:

    1. Dina Rock
    2. Raquel Sanchez
    3. Rachel Meisel Ratcliffe
    4. JoAnn McKenna
    5. Connie Rath

     

    Implementation:

    Team Leader - Lisa Mills

    1. Laura Gutmann
    2. Rachel Meisel Ratcliffe
    3. JoLisa Hoover

     

    Outcomes:

    1. Raquel Sanchez
    2. Nicora Placa
    3. Doug Clark
    4. Julie Shively
    5. Robin Stevenson

     

    Policy:

    1. David Markus
    2. Ross Freshwater
    3. John Pallasch
    4. Shelia Akinleye
    5. Kesi Stribling
    6. Eric Nunnally

     

     

    As always, we are here to answer ANY questions you have. Please just let us know. Thanks again for volunteering to be part of this effort!

    • 11 posts since
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      Jul 31, 2009 2:38 PM (in response to Sarah Manes)
      Re: Discussion Area teams posted!

      Hello,

      I was just wondering where we find the discussion threads for our groups. Thanks!

      • 26 posts since
        Jun 4, 2009
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        Discussion Area teams updated!

        Hi everyone,

        Here are the most recent Discussion Teams - thanks to all who posted since the initial list went up. If you haven't yet signed up - it's not too late! I also want to annouce that on Monday, August 3, the dicussion area communities will officially "open" and you will find a space dedicated solely to your team. There you will find resources and other tools. Your Team Leader will be contacting you shortly to talk about strategy and timeline. But in the meantime, familiarize yourselves with the space and start thinking about responses and questions relevant to your team. And don't forget to let us know if you have any questions. Have a great weekend!

         

        Measures:

        Team Leader - Dina Rock

        1. Raquel Sanchez
        2. Rachel Meisel Ratcliffe
        3. JoAnn McKenna
        4. Connie Rath
        5. Matthew Rojanskly

         

        Implementation:

        Team Leader - Lisa Mills

        1. Laura Gutmann
        2. Rachel Meisel Ratcliffe
        3. JoLisa Hoover
        4. Leighann Lenti
        5. Stefanie Trout
        6. Michelle Pierre Farid

         

        Outcomes:

        Team Leader - Doug Clark

        1. Raquel Sanchez
        2. Nicora Placa
        3. Julie Shively
        4. Robin Stevenson

         

        Policy:

        1. David Markus
        2. Ross Freshwater
        3. John Pallasch
        4. Shelia Akinleye
        5. Kesi Stribling
        6. Eric Nunnally
        7. Liam Goldrick
        8. Robin Chait
        9. Kristen Schiavone
        10. Ken Chawkins
  • 2 posts since
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    Jul 30, 2009 1:17 PM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
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    My preference would be #4 - Policy
  • 1 posts since
    Jul 8, 2009
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    Jul 30, 2009 2:13 PM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
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    So sorry for the late reply -- #1 or 4 for me please.
  • 2 posts since
    Jul 30, 2009
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    Jul 30, 2009 2:28 PM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
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    I'd like to sign up for discussion area #4.

     

    Robin Chait

  • 6 posts since
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    Jul 30, 2009 6:25 PM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
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    I'll contribute wherever I am needed most -- #2?  If it makes any difference as to where I'm useful, I'm a first-year teacher.

  • 6 posts since
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    Jul 30, 2009 6:50 PM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
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    I'm interested in the Policy area...Don't have time to be a Leader, but I'll do my best to participate as I can...Tx.
  • 2 posts since
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    Jul 30, 2009 8:26 PM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
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    I would love to do Discussion #1 or Discussion #2 .  If you are really in a need of a team lead, then I would offer.
  • Samuel Roe 29 posts since
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    Jul 31, 2009 9:02 PM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
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    I am interested in areas #1 and #4.

     

    Thanks,

     

    Sam

  • 2 posts since
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    Aug 1, 2009 1:15 AM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
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    I am interested in joining the implementation team. Sorry for the delayed response-hope I can still join!
    • 26 posts since
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      Aug 7, 2009 10:59 PM (in response to Michele Repass)
      Re: Discussion Area Teams Update

      Hi everyone,

      Below is the most updated discussion area participant list. Please visit your discussion area community to check in with your team members and team leader(s) and to start participating in the discussion. Thanks again to all who have been able to join a specific area. For those who haven't yet, we would love to hear from you!

       

      Measures:

      Team Leaders - Dina Rock and Darcy Moody

      1. Raquel Sanchez
      2. Rachel Meisel Ratcliffe
      3. JoAnn McKenna
      4. Connie Rath
      5. Matthew Rojansky
      6. Sherman Dorn

       

      Implementation:

      Team Leader - Lisa Mills

      1. Laura Gutmann
      2. Rachel Meisel Ratcliffe
      3. JoLisa Hoover
      4. Leighann Lenti
      5. Stefanie Trout
      6. Michelle Pierre Farid
      7. Michele Repass

       

      Outcomes:

      Team Leader - Doug Clark

      1. Raquel Sanchez
      2. Nicora Placa
      3. Julie Shively
      4. Robin Stevenson
      5. Betty Amos

       

      Policy:

      Team Leaders - Sam Roe and Eric Nunnally

      1. David Markus
      2. Ross Freshwater
      3. John Pallasch
      4. Shelia Akinleye
      5. Kesi Stribling
      6. Liam Goldrick
      7. Robin Chait
      8. Kristen Schiavone
      9. Ken Chawkins
      10. Sherman Dorn
  • 14 posts since
    Aug 7, 2009
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    Aug 7, 2009 9:16 PM (in response to Catherine Cullen)
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    Okay, I'm late... way late.  #1 and #4, please.

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